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May 18, 2005
Church and Politics at Seminary
After class today a classmate helped me connect today's case study with the prayers that the Episcopal Peace Fellowship at our school "sponsors" during the Prayers of the People at Dean's Mass on Tuesdays. Both the prayers for those scheduled to be executed by X state and the prayers for American soldiers who have been killed in Iraq and the Iraqi soldiers and civilians who have been killed are, in some ways, politics in the liturgy. The classmate further commented to me that this was ok with them cause they were "done right". These prayers are a good example of how this kind of a conversation can occur in a parish setting, because they weren't always "done right" and I'm not fully convinced they are being completely "done right" currently.
Both prayers have been tweaked over time as comments, solicitied and unsolicited, as well as questions have come in. For example, the prayer for those who are scheduled to be executed used to be worded, "We pray for X, who is scheduled to be executed by the state of Y on such and such a day. We pray also for his family, the families of his victims, and the people of state Y in whose name X will be killed." The last part of the prayer raised a few eyebrows and so EPF offered the explanation that when a comvict is executed by the state, the cause of death on the death certificate is listed as "homicide". The prayer in its current form is chosen by the person volunteering to offer the prayer each week.
So, what do y'all think about this? In what ways is this the same kind of thing as our case study and in what ways might it be different? Can one serve as a model for developing a way to deal with the other?
-R
Posted by Ryan W at May 18, 2005 12:19 AM
Comments
Well, I think it's pretty darn related. It's different in that it's planned, it happens regularly (and therefore you have the opportunity to make changes in response to feedback), and it comes from members of the community (who are themselves available to continue dialogue). But I think they're at least similar enough that they can inform each other. If nothing else, given the class's general reaction on Tuesday, I think it's worth us asking ourselves why one is ok with us and the other isn't. If it's because they're "done right" at Seabury, then we need to be able to articulate what entails "done right" and who gets to decide that. I don't think "done right" is an entirely worthless reason - I have similar standards for liturgy in general, where I don't care nearly as much about high/low/whatever as I do about "done well" - but we have to be very careful that "right/well" isn't just "what I like" but has more reasoning behind it. And we need to be able and willing to share that with each other.
Posted by: beth at May 20, 2005 08:41 PM
For me, Ryan, the biggest difference between our POP format and Mr. Smith's announcement is that his was a decidedly partisan plug, where our prayers could be construed as such but are not overtly so. I generally feel comfortable interjecting issues into the liturgy (via POP, the sermon, etc). I don't think directly advocating for candidates is appropriate (or legal, for that matter).
Of course, to be perfectly honest, I'd be a whole lot more comfortable if the issues that were addressed were ones that I favored. I'm not so sure that, as rector, I'd appreciate a parishioner using the liturgy to voice a contrary opinion to my own or to the mind of the majority of the congregation. I know that that's a stinker to deal with, and speaks to the issue of control that we touched briefly on in class; the issue of who "controls" the liturgy - the rector, the congregation, the Holy Spirit. I guess that as the rector/presider, at least the canonical authority rests with me. The question of leadership is how to use that authority to move the congregation without being too far ahead or leaving too many behind.
Good question...thanks for asking.
d.
Posted by: Dan at May 21, 2005 08:50 PM
I have to admit when I arrived at school I was taken aback when I heard the prayers for those about to be executed. In struggling with my own sense of justice, I neglected to hear that we also prayed for the victims of the convicted and their families. I wandered around in wonder for some time and then was reminded of the command given by Jesus in Matthew's Gospel: " 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.' 44 Then they also will answer, "Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?' 45 Then he will answer them, "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.'" I believe it takes great courage to enter into a relationship with someone judged as a murderer, but I have to ask myself how can I ask for compassion if I haven't given it as a gift to another? I think for reconciliation and transformation of the human condition to take place I need to be the one who both offers and receives the gift of forgiveness.
Posted by: Jenni Liem at May 24, 2005 01:30 PM